Curse

Sli Ander · Nov 02, 2006, 11:09 AM // 11:09

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Originally Posted by The Silver Star

They have a life outside Guild Wars

In support of those saying Cartography is tough...I have about 94%(not quite) and I'm a casual player. I have less than 500 hours clocked in the last year.

That was all in between full time jobs, attempting to write a novel, training for the army, etc. I had 80% before they even came out with titles, so I think its mainly a mentality thing for those who chose to get it, not whether or not they have money(like other titles)or even time. Or a life outside the game.

But that's just my two cents

pingu666 · Nov 02, 2006, 11:09 AM // 11:09

what does require skill then?

sure, some missions are easy, but some are really hard. plus on most cantha missions u need a good group, and there against the clock, so u cant go off exploring if u want masters... so u gotta do each mission atleast twice..

i dont think theres been enough time availible to max out lucky/unlucky titles (plus it would cost ALOT)

wasnt possible to max skill hunter title until nightfall..

all 3 protector titles = 58 missions, plus some of the primary quests in cantha are hard too...

drunkard title max is like 120hours or something drunk..

treasure/wisdom is 10,000 high level items (each)

legendary survivor is reached by the equivilent of level 100

nightfall titles >
Note#2: Its not possible to reach the Spearmarshal Title, yet.
Note#1: Its not possible to reach the Conquering Commander Title, yet.

it takes considerable grinding and skill, the skill is probably different from pvp, but its still skill...

there is one curious title tho
Defender of Ascalon title track

You will earn the title Legendary Defender of Ascalon if you reach Level 20 prior to the destruction of Ascalon. Progress for this title is not shown until the player reaches level 14. (It is available at level 12 maybe earlier.)

Notes: Currently the only way known of getting from level 16 to level 20 is via a practice called Death Leveling. Death leveling involves leveling an opponent monster past or near your current level by allowing it to kill your character over and over. (There is no DP in Pre Searing.) Once the monster reaches an appropriate level (preferably one higher than yours) it can be killed for experience.

mr_groovy · Nov 03, 2006, 08:49 AM // 08:49

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Originally Posted by Death3D

/notsigned

Emotes where the way to define time in HA. It was the only way to tell who was "ranked", wether rank means skill or just time in game these days is a matter of debate, no emotes are needed for pvp.

pve'ers complained that they never had anyway to tell who was "uber leet", and everyone knows /rank is useless outside of HA, so why do you care? Anet finally made all pve shutup by giving them titles to prove their "leetness". Now you want more? please. You got the titles that say just how "leet" you are that is enough.

You can say getting 180 fame is easier then the protector missions, and you deserve some regonition in a /emote for that, but honestly, how hard is getting all mission/bonus anyways? half the time you hench it. If you really want an emote that bad, go to HA and run vimway and get your 180 since its so easy.

As that is said, its on the same note that pvp creation dosnt need vanity items, thats the whole point of pve.

I can see you haven't tried getting the bonus on Thunderhead Keep, Dunes of despair in Tyria. Or Vizunah square / Nahpui Quarter in Cantha. I can tell you these are the more difficult Missions to get Master / Bonus on. As far for my "1337"nis I did do THK and Dundes of despair bonus with henchies and that is an accomplishment.

Btw Good way to promoto HA to leave us do VIMway to get fame

As Stated by Al other Replies. Koabd is a exclusive title to get for pve, and should be rewarded as such. In a crouded area nobody is going to see all the titles everybody has, but do see the "bambi" when is shown.

freekedoutfish · Nov 03, 2006, 09:07 AM // 09:07

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Originally Posted by The Silver Star

They have a life outside Guild Wars

/notsigned

Its a nice idea but it is deffinately a Title that requires time and money only not skill.

Where have you got his impression that anyone with a max title has no life outside of GWs?

Yes i have max explorer on both tyria and Cantha, but the last I checked, id rather be out down the pub them exploring a computer game.

I dont spend hours on end playing guild wars to get titles. Maybe an hour or two a night if im not busy.

It tooks me months to get 100% on both, due to that.

But that doesnt mean the explorer titles (as part of the kind of a big deal title) arent worthy of being shown off with an emote.

They ARE hard titles to get. Im not saying its hard to hug a wall around every location, but there are certain locations which are VERY HARD to explore in both areas and take time and effort and dedicationg to get.

If your a warrior or a ranger, then fine, maybe it is easy. But as anything else, we dont have the luxory of running or warrior armor.

It also takes alot of effort in locating 100% maps and analysing them and comparing them to find where you have missed. That takes work outside of GWs using software to compare maps, and believe me when I say its extremely pain-staking.

When your at 99% and you cant find the last 1% and your having to strain your eyes analysing maps to find tiny differences, it can get frustrating.

But scough if you want at those of us with 100% on maps. It just shows we have dedication to exploring, unlike most others who laugh at it.

It also probably means we know all the locations you dont!!!

mr_groovy · Nov 03, 2006, 09:16 AM // 09:16

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

When your at 99% and you cant find the last 1% and your having to strain your eyes analysing maps to find tiny differences, it can get frustrating.

What's even worse is when u are at 99.9% and can't get that 0.1%

And yeah it took me one week tot get from 99% tot 100% in tyria using a lot of photoshop for comparing

daky · Nov 03, 2006, 09:23 AM // 09:23

/signed

would be funny to have an emote for ale hounds. have them do a short drunk walk or stumble around for a few sec.

Sophitia Leafblade · Nov 03, 2006, 10:01 AM // 10:01

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Originally Posted by pingu666

what does require skill then?

Well everything and nothing it depends on if u work for it, if you do work for it urself it requires some skill but if u "cheat" and get someone else to do the work for u (like Pling for Survivor etc., or getting run through missions with u having to do anything) then i takes no skill on your behave but it does require skill on your allys behalf, although some titles really dont require any skill Unless u achive it faster than most people like say managing to get the lucky title in record breaking time which still some would put to luck and others put to skill

ThunderStruck · Nov 03, 2006, 01:23 PM // 13:23

/signed, although you'll never see me use it, as I'll never make it to KOABD :P

mr_groovy · Nov 03, 2006, 09:42 PM // 21:42

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Originally Posted by thelegendozelda

/sign

almost have 8 of 10, need something fancy for it

8-10 that's great

. I am half way on both prot and cat for 6/10.

stefan_moore · Nov 03, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46

/signed i want a emote lol maybe would make me actauly try and get that last bit of exploration of catha and tyria to get 2 more titles closer

pingu666 · Nov 03, 2006, 10:53 PM // 22:53

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

Well everything and nothing it depends on if u work for it, if you do work for it urself it requires some skill but if u "cheat" and get someone else to do the work for u (like Pling for Survivor etc., or getting run through missions with u having to do anything) then i takes no skill on your behave but it does require skill on your allys behalf, although some titles really dont require any skill Unless u achive it faster than most people like say managing to get the lucky title in record breaking time which still some would put to luck and others put to skill

i got my survivor title on assassin by careful questing, (didnt do captured son

) and when i got to the mainland i did quests from k center and marketplace to get me upto level 20. i mostly used a naga longbow twards the end

dispite me being a A/Me, still a reasonable achivement tho.

mr_groovy · Nov 04, 2006, 12:05 AM // 00:05

^ lol I hear you. Sophitia Leafblade have you ever tried getting survivor on a sin.
It takes skill, and knowledge to avoid death. But still doing your sins job. Currently at 450K exp on my sin, and 0 deaths

, and that's all without paying anyone to plvl me.

skillsbas8 · Nov 04, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37

I agree. The Kind of a Big Deal title requires much more time and money than it requires skill. Emotes should be limited to PVP. Possibly add some bonus to people that have this title such as the bonus given to Treasure Hunters for the bonus % on salvaging. Keep emotes for PVP.

Eilsys · Nov 04, 2006, 02:57 AM // 02:57

Getting one million gold is hard, can I have an emote please, like a neon green $ that's about 2 times the size of the Lich?

mr_groovy · Nov 04, 2006, 08:39 AM // 08:39

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Originally Posted by Eilsys

Getting one million gold is hard, can I have an emote please, like a neon green $ that's about 2 times the size of the Lich?

There's already a visual aspect to having 1mil + gold. It's called FOW armor

.

On a serious note. Still the Koabd Title track is the most prestige pve title track.
And getting koabd, or pkm should be rewarded as such.

mr_groovy · Nov 14, 2006, 10:16 AM // 10:16

Well I finally made it.

And for people saying it's not hard at all, Getting the canthan + tyrian carto was a pain. And protector on Elona isn't a field trip either. So I still think People should be rewarded for getting this title.(Also gives a nice goal for other people who can't be bothered to get just a title ea replay value

)

The Silver Star · Nov 14, 2006, 11:41 AM // 11:41

The title is the reward. The only reason that Emotes exist in PvP is because they were inpalced before the title system, and now will stay. It is just a title and the title is the reward for grinding.

/notsigned

freekedoutfish · Nov 14, 2006, 12:39 PM // 12:39

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

Well everything and nothing it depends on if u work for it, if you do work for it urself it requires some skill but if u "cheat" and get someone else to do the work for u (like Pling for Survivor etc., or getting run through missions with u having to do anything) then i takes no skill on your behave but it does require skill on your allys behalf, although some titles really dont require any skill Unless u achive it faster than most people like say managing to get the lucky title in record breaking time which still some would put to luck and others put to skill

You cant cheat the explorer titles, thats why they are GOOD.

You only get the % if you actually go into that corner or this corner, or this section YOURSELF. So you CANT have it run for you. Even if you just follow someone, you would still be expected to fight or run.

Its something that you have to do for yourself either way.

legion_rat · Nov 14, 2006, 01:18 PM // 13:18

/signed

but what would the emote be? How bout going with the animal theme of other emotes you get a moa.

~the rat~

Sli Ander · Nov 14, 2006, 06:14 PM // 18:14

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Requires 0 skill?

Have you tried exploring the region in DOD to the bottom right and the fort to the left?

Something for which you need a strong team with teleport, or a strong monk to keep the ghost alive while you explore. Something which is near impossible to do because AGAIN, either no one has the knowledge to understand about teleporting over the wall or they cant be bothered to help you.

It ISNT easy and it certainly does take alot more then 0 skill.

<<the monk. I have to go back time and again to DOD with henchies, because otherwise I'm expected to watch the ghostly. Being a monk does make it slightly easier in some areas(to hench), if you know what you're doing.

Anyway, on topic. Cartography is tough, Koabd tougher. it would be nice if koabd or People Know me, or whatever the max is would get some special emote besides the title. I don't know what it would be, but they should at least get a cookie for trying so hard.

But that's just my two cents.